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Since April of last year after I saw Behemoth open for Morbid Angel, I have taken advantage of every opportunity imaginable to talk shit about them.
However, I decided to take a look at their Metal Arcihves page and I noticed that most of the reviews for 2004's Demigod didn't receive a score of less than 95%. I then listened to a couple of the disc's tracks, "Slaves Shall Serve" and "The Nephilim Rising (A Cupula)," on YouTube, and I must say that they're pretty good. With that said, is the rest of Demigod as good as those two songs? Did I catch Behemoth on a bad night? Are they just a bad live band in general?
Bradzilla
06-05-2007, 07:28 PM
I've seen them live a couple times and they're good but they don't do anything special, unless you count the drummer doing windmills while he plays. They don't sound too different live than on CD, IMO.
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Eh, wow, we definitely disagree on Behemoth. Live, they are one of the better bands out there. I caught them on the same tour you did with MA, and their light show alone was enough to make your head explode. I've probably seen Behemoth about 4-5 times....every single time has been good.
Yes, Demigod is a badass disc all the way through, as is Zos Kia Cultus and Apostasy, from what I've heard. Their early stuff sounds very raw and black metal (ala Immortal and Emperor from the early 90's) and would probably definitely not be to your liking. But, I'm surprised you didn't like 'em on the MA tour, they were one of the better bands there, I thought. You must have caught them on a bad night.....
Oh, check out Demigod's title track if you want a truly awesome song. :headbanger
Eh, wow, we definitely disagree on Behemoth. Live, they are one of the better bands out there. I caught them on the same tour you did with MA, and their light show alone was enough to make your head explode. I've probably seen Behemoth about 4-5 times....every single time has been good.
Yes, Demigod is a badass disc all the way through, as is Zos Kia Cultus and Apostasy, from what I've heard. Their early stuff sounds very raw and black metal (ala Immortal and Emperor from the early 90's) and would probably definitely not be to your liking. But, I'm surprised you didn't like 'em on the MA tour, they were one of the better bands there, I thought. You must have caught them on a bad night.....
Maybe it was a bad night or maybe Behemoth is not a band that I should have been introduced to via a live show then since I had no idea who they were and I wasn't much of a straight-up death metal fan at the time. In fact, Morbid Angel was one of two or three death metal bands I liked at the time that wasn't "melodeath." Reviewing CD's for this site actually helped me to get into DM to the extent that I am now since about half of the CD's I reviewed were by "tr00" death metal bands, and I can definitely see myself enjoying it a lot more in the not so distant future.
Mark Carras
06-05-2007, 10:52 PM
Maybe it was a bad night or maybe Behemoth is not a band that I should have been introduced to via a live show then since I had no idea who they were and I wasn't much of a straight-up death metal fan at the time. In fact, Morbid Angel was one of two or three death metal bands I liked at the time that wasn't "melodeath." Reviewing CD's for this site actually helped me to get into DM to the extent that I am now since about half of the CD's I reviewed were by "tr00" death metal bands, and I can definitely see myself enjoying it a lot more in the not so distant future.
I aim to corrupt. :rotfl
SLASHer
06-06-2007, 12:55 AM
Eh, wow, we definitely disagree on Behemoth. Live, they are one of the better bands out there. I caught them on the same tour you did with MA, and their light show alone was enough to make your head explode. I've probably seen Behemoth about 4-5 times....every single time has been good.
Yes, Demigod is a badass disc all the way through, as is Zos Kia Cultus and Apostasy, from what I've heard. Their early stuff sounds very raw and black metal (ala Immortal and Emperor from the early 90's) and would probably definitely not be to your liking. But, I'm surprised you didn't like 'em on the MA tour, they were one of the better bands there, I thought. You must have caught them on a bad night.....
Oh, check out Demigod's title track if you want a truly awesome song. :headbanger
:monkeythumb SUAD and I agree on something!!!! I don't like that kind of extreme metal and even I know Behemoth rules! I can't wait to see them on Ozzfest with Nile. I'm quite lucky to be able to see 2 of the bands in that genre that I dig. Now if I could only go back in time and see Death.
StonerMafia
06-06-2007, 07:47 AM
:monkeythumb SUAD and I agree on something!!!!
I'll second that.
I already heard a rumor floating around the religious hole at work that some church is going to pickit Behemoth when they com to Wichita in late July.:wtf
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-06-2007, 10:03 AM
I'll second that.
I already heard a rumor floating around the religious hole at work that some church is going to pickit Behemoth when they com to Wichita in late July.:wtf
It's interesting how you always hear about church's and religious groups wasting their time picketing shows. I wonder how it would work if bands/fans decided to protest church every Sunday, rather than keep their views on their own ballcourt, so to speak?
At any rate....yes, Behemoth are a superb blackened death metal band. If anyone here gets a chance too....talk to Nergal, the guy is really smart and always willing to discuss just about anything, particularly religion.
It's interesting how you always hear about church's and religious groups wasting their time picketing shows. I wonder how it would work if bands/fans decided to protest church every Sunday, rather than keep their views on their own ballcourt, so to speak?
Now that's a hell of an idea. I may actually try this one day, and I hope that others will as well.
At any rate....yes, Behemoth are a superb blackened death metal band. If anyone here gets a chance too....talk to Nergal, the guy is really smart and always willing to discuss just about anything, particularly religion.
Well, if I ever get my ass in gear and go back in the direction I was in about a year ago, I may have seek out an interview with Nergal one day. I also noticed yesterday at Behemoth's Metal Archives page that he writes a majority of his lyrics about early civiliations, as in B.C. to pre-1000's, which seems to be pretty cool.
Originally Posted by CFH
Maybe it was a bad night or maybe Behemoth is not a band that I should have been introduced to via a live show then since I had no idea who they were and I wasn't much of a straight-up death metal fan at the time. In fact, Morbid Angel was one of two or three death metal bands I liked at the time that wasn't "melodeath." Reviewing CD's for this site actually helped me to get into DM to the extent that I am now since about half of the CD's I reviewed were by "tr00" death metal bands, and I can definitely see myself enjoying it a lot more in the not so distant future.
I aim to corrupt.
Yet you basically hate death metal. :D
Mark Carras
06-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Yet you basically hate death metal. :D
Nah, I honestly just say that because it is easier then explaining what death metal bands I do in fact like. Mainly it is the ones that had videos in the 90's. Through my video show I hosted and produced, I was introduced to death metal very early on. So bands like Unleashed, Morbid Angel, Entombed, Carcass, Death, and a few others. Then there is the very rare new death metal band that impresses me like Vader.
What I look for in death metal is the same as anything else. I want depth in the song writing, I want vocals that are not flat and monotone, I want lyrics that have some thought put to them. I want it to be energetic, but not to where it is a 45 minute blast beat. The vocals should have some kind of tone to them as well.
So I do like death metal. I am just picky...TO THE EXTREME!@ :rotfl
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-06-2007, 10:18 PM
**cough Vader came out in 91 (release-wise) cough cough cough....not a "new dm band" cough cough**
They've been around since 89 to be truthful, Mark.
KNOW YO DETH MEDAL, SON!!!!!!!!! :evil
Originally Posted by CFH
Yet you basically hate death metal.
Nah, I honestly just say that because it is easier then explaining what death metal bands I do in fact like. Mainly it is the ones that had videos in the 90's. Through my video show I hosted and produced, I was introduced to death metal very early on. So bands like Unleashed, Morbid Angel, Entombed, Carcass, Death, and a few others. Then there is the very rare new death metal band that impresses me like Vader.
What I look for in death metal is the same as anything else. I want depth in the song writing, I want vocals that are not flat and monotone, I want lyrics that have some thought put to them. I want it to be energetic, but not to where it is a 45 minute blast beat. The vocals should have some kind of tone to them as well.
So I do like death metal. I am just picky...TO THE EXTREME!@
Interesting. The three death metal bands, or bands that at least were DM at one point or another, I liked before I began reviewing a bunch of albums from the genre for this site were Death, Morbid Angel and Carcass. It's a huge shame, and quite ironic, that Death and Carcass both "died" in the 90's.
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Heh...both Death and Carcass were not actual death metal bands.
Death was thrash after Spiritual Healing and Carcass was always grind.....up until maybe Heartwork. Heartwork and beyond could be considered melo-deth perhaps....not death metal.
Heh...both Death and Carcass were not actual death metal bands.
Death was thrash after Spiritual Healing and Carcass was always grind.....up until maybe Heartwork. Heartwork and beyond could be considered melo-deth perhaps....not death metal.
Now that I think about it, you're right about Carcass, but wasn't Death a death metal band on Scream Bloody Gore?
Mark Carras
06-07-2007, 01:14 AM
**cough Vader came out in 91 (release-wise) cough cough cough....not a "new dm band" cough cough**
They've been around since 89 to be truthful, Mark.
KNOW YO DETH MEDAL, SON!!!!!!!!! :evil
Technically sure, but very few in America knew about them until several years (about a decade) later. To the American metal scene they are pretty much considered more a part of the second wave of DM and not the era that I was introduced to the style.
Some say the band formed in 86, but it is not about when the band was formed but when the band came to worldwide visibility. I mean seriously...did you know about them in 86?
-deathboy-
06-07-2007, 06:51 AM
i would say that scream bloody gore and leprosy were definately death metal. from there i lost interest.
carcass started out goregrind, but necroticism is definately one fo the early death metal classics and inspired many a band to come.
if one wants to hear good new death metal, one needs look no further than bloodbath. in all their incarnates they kick ass!
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-07-2007, 03:02 PM
Technically sure, but very few in America knew about them until several years (about a decade) later. To the American metal scene they are pretty much considered more a part of the second wave of DM and not the era that I was introduced to the style.
Some say the band formed in 86, but it is not about when the band was formed but when the band came to worldwide visibility. I mean seriously...did you know about them in 86?
Not really, I was more concerned with Cookie Crisp cereal and cartoons at that age. :monkeybang
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-07-2007, 03:03 PM
Now that I think about it, you're right about Carcass, but wasn't Death a death metal band on Scream Bloody Gore?
Death was actually dm up until Individual Thought Patterns....then they began to change to thrashy metal.
Bonehead
06-07-2007, 08:05 PM
Uh...back to the original topic. Behemoth is coming to GR in August and Iain wants to see them so bad that he is actually willing to pay for our tickets! The biggest problem that I have is not so much them being a blackened death metal band, but the fact that Three Inches of Blood is opening. I still have nightmares and bouts of nausea thinking about that damn singer with his finger upside his nose the entire set.
Mark Carras
06-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Not really, I was more concerned with Cookie Crisp cereal and cartoons at that age. :monkeybang
Mmmmm. Cookie Crisp cereal. :drool
SHUT UP AND DIE
06-07-2007, 10:39 PM
Mmmmm. Cookie Crisp cereal. :drool
Let's not forget Captain Crunch, Boo-berry, Franken Berry, Count Chocula, and Cocoa Krispies!
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